Cloud Engineer - Zurich, Switzerland
(Tech stack: Cloud Engineer, AWS, Azure, GCP, Citrix, Terraform, Ansible, Docker, Kubernetes, Jenkins, Git, Python, Bash, Networking, Security (IAM, VPC), Serverless Computing, Cloud Storage, Cloud Databases, Load Balancing, Monitoring (CloudWatch, Azure Monitor), Identity and Access Management (IAM), Automation, M365, Cloud Cost Management, High Availability, Disaster Recovery, Cloud Architecture, API Gateway, Containers, DevOps in the Cloud, Cloud-native Security, Cloud Engineer)
We have several fantastic new roles for Cloud Engineer (AWS, Azure, Kubernetes, GCP, Linux, Windows) to join an ambitious Engineering company. This is your chance to work with the brightest minds in Engineering. Our latest product release has revolutionized the way people perceive engineering solutions and empowered companies to deliver personalized, scalable, and unparalleled frameworks for their clients. With our cutting-edge technology, we have transformed the engineering industry, providing innovative solutions that surpass current market standards. Join our team and be part of shaping the future of engineering.
Our client is looking for passionate Cloud Engineer candidates with experience in some or all of the following (full training will be provided to fill any gaps in your skill set): AWS, Azure, GCP, Citrix, Terraform, Ansible, Docker, Kubernetes, Jenkins, Git, Python, Bash, Networking, Security (IAM, VPC), Serverless Computing, Cloud Storage, Cloud Databases, Load Balancing, Monitoring (CloudWatch, Azure Monitor), Identity and Access Management (IAM), Automation, M365, Cloud Cost Management, High Availability, Disaster Recovery, Cloud Architecture, API Gateway, Containers, DevOps in the Cloud, Cloud-native Security).
This is your opportunity to be part of a new, technically challenging project and to be involved in the creation of a new application from scratch. Engineering is booming and our client are fast becoming a leader of this market!
All Cloud Engineer positions come with the following benefits:
Shares in the company.
Pension scheme (8%).
3 hours ‘free time’ each week to investigate new technologies.
An annual training allowance of CHF 4,500.
27 days holiday (excluding Public Holidays) plus your birthday off.
Flexible working hours.
Pizza and beer delivered to your home on Fridays.
Access to free online yoga classes which take place over lunch or after work.
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Hybrid Working
Salary: CHF 100,000 - CHF 130,000 + Bonus + Pension + Benefits
To apply for this position please send your CV to Charlie Skipper at Noir.
Applicants must be based in Switzerland and have the right to work in Switzerland even though remote working is available.
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AWS Cloud Architect required to create cloud service infrastructure for IoT enabled cloud services on AWS. This is a senior role but will require high level design, coding, implementation and initial maintenance of a highly scalable system destined for global deployment across various customer configurations each with thousands of endpoints. So toolchain specification and build will be needed as appropriate to: test solutions, integrate architectures, scale the platform and adapt as requirements dictate.
Key Skills:
AWS with Docker containers and ideally an IoT component.
Cloud computing fundamentals: OOD/Object Oriented Design, resilient data structures, algorithm design and Algorithm Complexity Analysis.
Software engineering experience of the full software development life cycle: requirements, test, regression testing / Continuous Integration (CI/CD), source control management, build processes and documentation
Python, JavaScript, TypeScript and/or C#/
Stored and streamed data.
Data science model deployment and monitoring.
The Cloud Architects growing team will be the technical centre point co-ordinating and directing as needed:
Front-end developers on real time analytics, location tracking, insights and data visualisation.
Embedded software development team on real-time data acquisition and transmission protocols.
Cyber security analysts and on threat prevention and platform access ....Read more...
AWS Cloud Engineer required to create cloud service infrastructure for IoT enabled cloud services on AWS. This is a senior role but will require someone who is happy in a hands on role: coding, implementation and architecture of a highly scalable system destined for global deployment across various customer configurations each with thousands of endpoints. Toolchain specification and build will be needed as appropriate to: test solutions, integrate architectures, scale the platform and adapt as requirements dictate.
Key Skills:
AWS with Docker containers and ideally an IoT component.
Cloud computing fundamentals: OOD/Object Oriented Design, resilient data structures, algorithm design and Algorithm Complexity Analysis.
Software engineering experience of the full software development life cycle: requirements, test, regression testing / Continuous Integration (CI/CD), source control management, build processes and documentation
Python, JavaScript, TypeScript and/or C#/
Stored and streamed data.
Data science model deployment and monitoring.
The Cloud Architects growing team will be the technical centre point co-ordinating and directing as needed:
Front-end developers on real time analytics, location tracking, insights and data visualisation.
Embedded software development team on real-time data acquisition and transmission protocols.
Cyber security analysts and on threat prevention and platform access.....Read more...
Cloud Consultant – Private Cloud
A leading Cloud Consultancy are looking for a Private Cloud specialist to join the business on a permanent basis.
As a Private Cloud Consultant, you will play a critical role in providing strategic guidance, designing cloud architectures, and delivering end-to-end cloud solutions for their enterprise scaled esteemed clients. Your deep understanding of VMWare ecosystems will be vital as you collaborate with client teams to drive successful cloud adoption and transformation projects. This is a unique position that offers an excellent opportunity to showcase your skills and expertise on a diverse range of engagements.
Responsibilities:
Engage directly with clients to understand their cloud requirements and develop customized cloud strategies.
Architect and design scalable, secure, and resilient cloud solutions on their VMWare platform alongside surrounding infrastructure such as HP 3Par, NSX Networking, NetApp (Metroclusters/FlexPod), Cisco UCS and Veeam backups.
Collaborate with cross-functional teams to implement and deploy cloud architectures, leveraging best practices.
Provide technical leadership and guidance throughout the project lifecycle, ensuring successful delivery within defined timelines.
Conduct knowledge transfer sessions and provide training to client teams on cloud technologies and best practices.
Stay abreast of the latest advancements in cloud computing and proactively recommend innovative solutions to optimize performance.
Requirements:
Extensive experience as a customer-facing cloud consultant.
In-depth knowledge of VMWare, NSX, Storage (HP 3Par, Nimble and/or Dell), Cisco UCS or Veeam.
Strong understanding of cloud security and compliance frameworks.
Proven track record of successfully delivering cloud projects.
Excellent communication and interpersonal skills, with the ability to effectively convey complex technical concepts to diverse stakeholders.
Relevant certifications such as VCP DV / NV 7 or above would be beneficial.
Paying between £75-85k depending on experience and seniority.
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IT Operations and Cloud Engineer | Telecoms | Remote from UK, Spain or Gibraltar
IT Operations and Cloud Engineer required for telecommunications company based in Gibraltar.
As the IT Operations and Cloud Engineer you will monitor and maintain the performance, availability and security of cloud-based applications and services.
What's on offer to you?
Genuine career progression
Relocation if required to Gibraltar
Career changing opportunity with an International Organisation
What You Will Be Doing
Monitor and maintain the performance, availability and security of cloud-based applications and services
Develop and maintain automation scrips and tools to streamline deployment and management of IT infrastructure across a variety of virtualisation and cloud platforms
Create and maintain technical documentation and procedures
Stay up to date with emerging trends and technologies
Provide IT infrastructure technical support and assistance to internal teams
Participate in an on-call roster
Occasional travel to company locations if/when required
Ability to work outside of regular business hours when required to support critical systems & Infrastructure
What You Will Need to Succeed in This Role
3+ years of experience with Linux server environments
Experience with automation, application deployment and infrastructure provisioning
Creating and maintaining “Infrastructure as Code” using tools such as Puppet, Ansible, Salt or Terraform
Experience with log aggregation tools such as ELK, Graylog or Splunk
Strong understanding of virtualisation & cloud computing concepts, including virtualization, networking, security, and storage
Familiarity with containerisation technologies such as Docker and Kubernete
Hands-on experience with a programming/scripting language such as Python or PowerShell
Experience with VMWare ESXi & vCenter environments
Experience with OpenStack or public cloud technologies
Experience with RedHat or binary compatible OS environments
Experience with Atlassian JIRA, Bamboo and Confluence
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IT Operations and Cloud Engineer | Telecoms | Remote from UK, Spain or Gibraltar
IT Operations and Cloud Engineer required for telecommunications company based in Gibraltar.
As the IT Operations and Cloud Engineer you will monitor and maintain the performance, availability and security of cloud-based applications and services.
What's on offer to you?
Genuine career progression
Relocation if required to Gibraltar
Career changing opportunity with an International Organisation
What You Will Be Doing
Monitor and maintain the performance, availability and security of cloud-based applications and services
Develop and maintain automation scrips and tools to streamline deployment and management of IT infrastructure across a variety of virtualisation and cloud platforms
Create and maintain technical documentation and procedures
Stay up to date with emerging trends and technologies
Provide IT infrastructure technical support and assistance to internal teams
Participate in an on-call roster
Occasional travel to company locations if/when required
Ability to work outside of regular business hours when required to support critical systems & Infrastructure
What You Will Need to Succeed in This Role
3+ years of experience with Linux server environments
Experience with automation, application deployment and infrastructure provisioning
Creating and maintaining “Infrastructure as Code” using tools such as Puppet, Ansible, Salt or Terraform
Experience with log aggregation tools such as ELK, Graylog or Splunk
Strong understanding of virtualisation & cloud computing concepts, including virtualization, networking, security, and storage
Familiarity with containerisation technologies such as Docker and Kubernete
Hands-on experience with a programming/scripting language such as Python or PowerShell
Experience with VMWare ESXi & vCenter environments
Experience with OpenStack or public cloud technologies
Experience with RedHat or binary compatible OS environments
Experience with Atlassian JIRA, Bamboo and Confluence
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Dev Ops EngineerSalary: £80,000paLocation: Glasgow (hybrid)We are working with a super exciting business that is providing technology to create smoother, more effective kitchen operations. Due to funding, and wanting to bring their development team in house, they are looking for a dev ops engineer in the Glasgow region with expertise in Symphony. They offer a great working environment that can offer progression and career development.Position Overview:We are seeking a skilled Symphony DevOps Engineer. As a Symphony DevOps Engineer, you will play a critical role in designing, implementing, and maintaining our infrastructure and deployment pipelines. You'll work closely with our development, operations, and QA teams to streamline processes, automate tasks, and ensure the reliability and scalability of our systems.Responsibilities:
Design, build, and maintain our cloud infrastructure using tools like AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud Platform.Implement and manage CI/CD pipelines for efficient and automated software delivery.Monitor system performance and troubleshoot issues to ensure high availability and reliability.Automate routine tasks and processes to improve efficiency and reduce manual intervention.Implement security best practices and ensure compliance with relevant regulations.Collaborate with development teams to optimize application architecture for scalability and performance.Stay updated with the latest DevOps tools and technologies and evaluate their potential for adoption.
Requirements:
Bachelor's degree in Computer Science, Engineering, or a related field.Proven experience as a DevOps Engineer, with a focus on Symphony framework.Strong understanding of cloud computing concepts and experience with cloud providers such as AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud Platform.Proficiency in infrastructure as code tools such as Terraform or CloudFormation.Experience with containerization technologies like Docker and orchestration tools like Kubernetes.Familiarity with CI/CD tools such as Jenkins, GitLab CI, or CircleCI.Knowledge of scripting languages such as Bash, Python, or Ruby.Excellent problem-solving and communication skills.Ability to work independently and as part of a team in a fast-paced environment.....Read more...
@mecscomms is recruiting a contract Network Engineer, home based, remote working, on behalf of a Global IT, Technology & Telecom service provider. The roles will have ownership for the management & delivery of bespoke & complex IP networks, IPVPN, IDA WAN & firewall security network solutions for global Enterprise customers. The IP Network Engineer will configure, commission, provision, implement & support service & network activation for Core, Internet, IP, Cloud & Data products.
If you possess a Cisco CCNA / CCNP / CCIP / CCDP & have experience in IP networking, IPVPN, MPLS, Security, Firewalls, network operations, provisioning, implementation, configuration, migration, troubleshooting or support, I'm keen to hear from you.
# Position: CCNA Network Engineer, Cisco Implementation Engineer, Deployment Engineer
# Location: Home based, remote working, work from home
# Duration: 12+ month contract
# Hours: Monday – Friday 09.00 -17.30
# Gross Rate: £20 - inside IR35
# Security Clearance: SC or BPSS level clearance (or eligibility for clearance) is essential
Environment:
Network Implementation Engineer, Deployment Engineer, Service Delivery, IP Network Engineer, Technician, Analyst, Network Administrator, Change Management, Delivery, Implementation, Deployment, Rollout, Service Delivery, Implementation, Configuration, Provisioning, Deployment, Support, Migration, Operations, Enterprise solutions, IT, Technology, Cloud Computing, Hosted Services, Internet, IoT, Hosting, Managed IT Solutions, Networks, Telecoms, Unified Comms, Security, Cisco, IPVPN, VPN, MPLS, WAN, LAN, BGP, RIP, EIGRP, OSPF ,ISIS, Junior, Cisco, IP, TCP/IP, OSPF, BGP, MPLS, ADSL, DSL, FTTP, FTTH, Fibre, xDSL, Ethernet, NOC, WAN, LAN, IPVPN, VPN, Data, RIP, RIPv2, EIGRP, Routers, Switches, NOC, TMC, NMC, Voice, CCNA, CCNP, CCIP, Cisco, Alcatel-Lucent, ADVA, Juniper.
Key Activity:
# Provisioning of Core IP, Data & Network Security solutions
# Solution implementation & configuration
# IP Network implementation
# Remote configuration & commissioning
# End to end deployment
# Change & delivery management
# New product deployment
# Process management
# Governance & Control
Overview:
The IP Network Engineer will be responsible for the configuration, commissioning, delivery, implementation & documentation of new customer deployments across complex IP WAN network solutions for Core, Internet, IP, Cloud & Data products including IPVPN, MPLS, Security, Firewall & IDA WAN network solutions.
Responsibilities:
# Provisioning of Core IP, Data & Security solutions for Enterprise customers
# Configuration of solutions over IP Internet, Cloud & Managed Cisco Service Provider core networks
# Translating customer solution design into robust technical solutions & their deployment
# Operational activities including Network configuration & integration of customer equipment
# Manage Provide, Change & Cease activity
# Customer circuit deliveries & planned outages / changes
# Carry out pre & post configuration testing to ensure error free installation (Layers 1, 2 & 3)
# Assist with the implementation of new Internet & Cloud based products, systems & processes
# Provide an escalation point for engineers requiring technical support
# Provide technical representation at customer & project related meetings
# Ensure quality assurance is maintained
# Maintaining associated customer & network documentation
Candidate Profile:
Candidates will be considered from a range of backgrounds from IP support to implementation and configuration, through to junior network engineers or telecommunications graduates and candidates with CCNA certifications.
Ideally you will have some previous network implementation engineering experience ideally gained within an ISP, Network Service Provider, Managed Hosting, Telecom, Technology, ICT, Cloud, Systems / Network Integrator or similar type of technology managed services provider.
Your professional or academic experience is likely to include some of the following:
# Network delivery for fixed-line WAN telecommunications services & product
# IP, Data & Transmission principles & protocols for Network Build
# Strong understanding of fixed line WAN products; Cisco, IP WAN, VPN, MPLS, Connectivity, IDA
# MPLS & VPN knowledge
# Experience with Routing Protocols (BGP, RIP, EIGRP, OSPF, ISIS)
# Layer 2/ 3 principles & protocols to across multiple MPLS networks
# Direct Internet, IP Transit, Internet Routing, RIPE database, Cisco Routers & Switches, PPP, MLPPP, Ethernet, configuring Cisco, Alcatel & Juniper devices
# TCP/IP protocols & services (TCP / UDP, IPSec, VoIP, SNMP, DNS, Radius / TACACS+, BGP, EIGRP, OSPF, ISIS), Transmission fundamentals
# IP network provisioning & implementation
# Cisco CCNA or CCNP or CCIP or CCDP accreditation
It is essential for candidates to currently hold OR be eligible to pass BPSS (Basic Check) and SC level security clearance checks.
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For more information or a list of current vacancies, please see our web site at mecscomms.co.uk
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IT Support Analyst - Aylesbury
Opportunity for an IT Support Analyst / Service Desk Engineer to join a well-known public transport organisation undergoing significant technology transformation. A reputable, complex organisation with numerous sites, providing services to hundreds-of-thousands across the country. You’ll be joining at a particularly exciting time for the business, in the final stages of a separation from its parent organisation, insourcing Information Technology services.
This is an excellent opportunity for a Service Desk Engineer or IT Support Analyst to progress their career, as earlier joiners in a newly formed IT Department, built on ITIL practices. You will have the opportunity to support many projects in the transformation of IT infrastructure, systems, service models etc; including full shift to cloud infrastructure (Elastic Computing), major WAN upgrade (SDWAN) and an extensive pipeline of projects/change to applications and systems across the breadth of the business.
As an IT Support Analyst you will be required to work within a small, highly capable team, responsible for providing technical support to a variety of different end-users whilst maintaining exceptional levels of customer service and keeping in line with SLA’s. You will have the support of an experienced 3rd line Infrastructure team and various third-party vendors and Service providers as escalation points.
The role requires a motivated, self-starting individual. This is a fantastic opportunity for an individual looking to take the next step and progress with a rapidly developing company.
Role responsibilities:
Provide technical IT support – covering multiple issues spanning all end-user-computing, infrastructure, business systems, telephony etc
Support projects as required
Ensuring that issues are being resolved in accordance to SLA’s and service excellence is upheld
Collaborate with 3rdparties when required, ensuring all problems are dealt with swiftly
Receive and manage calls from internal staff via telephone, email and web portal when required
Take ownership of user problems, follow up the status of problems on behalf of the user and communicate progress in a timely manner and escalate when necessary
Required skills and experience:
Previous experience working in as an IT support analyst / engineer or Service Desk Analyst / Engineer
Experience supporting Microsoft Windows Server based Infrastructure
Experience with Windows 10, Office 365 and Active Directory
Citrix experience would be beneficial (basic level – shutting down sessions, assigning users etc), although not a requirement.
Basic networking knowledge (DHCP, DNS, TCP/IP)
Printer management and support
Setup and administration of endpoints (laptops, desktops, mobile phones, tablets)
Possess a positive can-do attitude and be able to communicate with users of all different technical levels
Experience with Mobile Device Management (MDM) tools, Azure AD and SharePoint are desirable but not essential
ITIL knowledge.
Salary up to £35,000
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Business Development Manager (SaaS / Intranet)
Salary: Base £50K with £80K+ OTE + Benefits
Location: Hybrid working with occasional office visit in Newbury
About the company:
A growing software company which develops intranet software and also builds SharePoint based intranets. They are very well established in the intranet market and have over 20 years of rich history and experience. They have a close-knit team of passionate staff who are now largely hybrid workers.
The Role:
The Business Development Manager is a key part of the Sales and Marketing Team with the responsibility to will win new SaaS business by effectively guiding potential customers through the sales process. This will involve a consultative sales process, encompassing qualifying leads and gathering requirements, completing tender responses, pre-sales demonstration activities, producing effective sales proposals and presentations, and commercial negotiation.
The successful applicant will be self-motivated and must be capable of generating new leads as well as developing pre-qualified leads.
Responsibilities:
* Show a clear understanding of the products and be able to demonstrate them and articulate their benefits to potential customers
* Deliver webinars to introduce the company to potential customers and educate on intranet concepts
* Nurture leads and build relationships with potential customers to establish trust and rapport
* Identify sales opportunities via tender notifications and external tools such as ZoomInfo and LinkedIn
* Work closely with marketing colleagues to implement initiatives to create new leads
Essential skills and experience:
* Previous software sales experience is essential, along with some formal sales training.
* Proven track record of securing new B2B customers
* Ability to identify and develop new business opportunities
* Demonstrate understanding of a consultative sales process
* Excellent presentation skills and confidence to deliver webinars and events
* Excellent written communication skills and ability to create compelling business proposals
* Willingness to travel and full driving licence
* Well organised and diligent
* CRM system experience
* Strong IT skills and technical understanding
* Graduate level with at least 2 years B2B sales experience
Relevant solution selling experience would include:
* SaaS products
* Web CMS products
* SharePoint
* Office 365
Important Information: We endeavour to process your personal data in a fair and transparent manner. In applying for this role, Additional Resources will be acting in your best interest and may contact you in relation to the role, either by email, phone or text message. For more information see our Privacy Policy on our website. It is important you are aware of your individual rights and the provisions the company has put in place to protect your data. If you would like further information on the policy or GDPR please contact us.
Additional Resources Ltd is an Employment Business and an Employment Agency as defined within The Conduct of Employment Agencies & Employment Businesses Regulations 2003.
Keywords: Sales, New Business, Business Development, BDM, SaaS, Cloud Computing, Telemarketing, Account Management, Intranet, Extranet, Internet, Software, Web, online, Portals, B2B
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JOB DESCRIPTION
GENERAL PURPOSE OF THE JOB:
*100% REMOTE / TELEWORK* Division - Tremco CPG IT - Corporate We are seeking an experienced and skilled Data Engineer to join our team! We are looking for a candidate that thrives in a collaborative environment, is a self-starter, and is passionate about data. Our data team is the foundation for data-driven business decisions and is leading the way for continued growth in innovative markets within the construction industry. On the Corporate Data team, the Data Engineer II's purpose is to design, develop, and maintain the company's data infrastructure, pipelines, and workflows. They are responsible for merging predictive and prescriptive modeling to ensure it stays consistent with data flowing across the organization. They work closely with data scientists, analysts, and other stakeholders to ensure the data is properly collected, stored, processed, and analyzed to drive informed business decisions. If you are passionate about data science and want to work with a dynamic team of professionals, please apply today!
ESSENTIAL DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES:
Design, develop, build, and maintain the company's data infrastructure, pipelines, and workflows and all associated engineering tasks. Develop and maintain ELT processes to collect and integrate data from various sources. Build and maintain data APIs to enable data access across the organization. Develop and implement scalable data solutions to optimize data processing, storage, and retrieval. Develop and maintain documentation for data pipelines, including data dictionaries, standard operating procedures, and data flow diagrams. Work with unstructured data and develop data models to enable data analysis and insights. Identify any hidden patterns or data inconsistencies and work along with similar ad-hoc analysis Ensure data quality, consistency, and accuracy and is properly structured and formatted to support analyses. Ensure data security, integrity, and compliance with data privacy regulations. Troubleshoot and resolve data-related issues, including data quality, integrity, and performance. Continuously monitor, maintain, and optimize the health and performance of the data infrastructure, pipelines, and workflows Collaborate with data scientists, analysts, and other stakeholders to understand data requirements. Stay up to date with the latest advancements in data engineering and recommend new technologies, tools, and processes to improve efficiency and productivity.
EDUCATION:
Bachelor's or Master's degree in Information Technology, Computer Science, or a related field
EXPERIENCE:
3+ years of experience in a data science or related role
CERTIFICATES, LICENSES, REGISTRATIONS:
Not Required but beneficial: Certified SQL Certified SQL, Advanced Queries Python for Data Science & Machine Learning R for Data Science & Machine Learning Databricks Lakehouse Fundamentals
OTHER SKILLS AND ABILITIES:
Proficiency in programming languages such as Python, R, and SQL Strong understanding of database technologies and SQL queries Strong experience with ELT processes, data integration, and data modeling Experience with cloud-based data storage and computing services, specifically Azure Excellent problem-solving and analytical skills Experience with data visualization tools such as Tableau or Power BI Experience with data lakehouse tools such as Synapse (data lake) or databricks Excellent communication and collaboration skills Ability to work independently and prioritize tasks in a fast-paced & dynamic environment
The salary range for applicants in this position generally ranges between $79,000 and $99,000. This range is an estimate, based on potential employee qualifications, operations, needs, and other considerations permitted by law. Benefits: Tremco offers a variety of benefits to its employees, including not limited to: health insurance, paid holidays, paid time off, 401(k) with company match, Company Pension Plan, Performance Based Commission, and continuing education.
Qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to their race, color, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, protected veteran status or disability.Apply for this ad Online!....Read more...